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Vegan Powerlifting
An Interview with Jim Gurtner Part 2
Welcome back to Vegan Powerlifting!
Jim Gurtner, professional powerlifter and bodybuilder became a vegan and has competed off and on for 30 years. He won championships on this diet when the plant-based lifestyle wasn’t at all popular or cool. In fact, in the fitness world, it was thought that one could not build muscle on plants, because, after all, where would someone get protein if not from meat?
At the moment, Jim is not competing, but this doesn’t mean he won’t again. He even told me that, “When I was not training for a meet, I would be training with
someone who was getting ready for one.” His career as a powerlifter hasn’t necessarily been the only thing he has done. It has been more of an off and on hobby over the past 30 year span.
Now, he says that in the past 5 years, though he may not be competing right now, he has done personal training for vegans and non-vegans alike.
Jim has just recently released a book for amateurs and professionals alike, Vegan Health & Strength. In his book, you will discover how a properly designed vegan diet can be superior to all others for building a strong, healthy, and muscular body. He teaches you how to plan and easily prepare vegan meals, as well as muscle-building workouts with energy and stamina you wouldn’t think possible.
Below, I continue talking with Jim about his life as a fitness professional, powerlifter and bodybuilder. We also talk some about his personal life and even mention some of the famous people he got to meet along the way!
If you missed the first half of this interview, please go to Vegan Powerlifting Part 1.
THE EARLY DAYS
When I was beginning my fitness goals, the idea of bodybuilding didn’t cross my mind. Not really anyway. Maybe briefly, but I’d say it was more of a distant thought. For Jim on the other hand, it was a passion. I asked Jim what made him decided he wanted to be a bodybuilder, and he told me his story:
“I was 16 and a junior in high school. One day in the cafeteria while eating, someone said, ‘you have to check out this freshman and the size of his biceps.’ His name was Ben Lew. When I asked him to show me his arm, his bicep flexed into a ball the size I couldn’t believe! Amazed I asked him, ‘how did you get those arms?’ He said, ‘through bodybuilding.’ I replied, ‘You mean to tell me that there’s a systematic way of going about getting muscles, and I could do the same?’ He said, ‘Certainly!’
WHERE IT ALL BEGAN
“It was in 1978 when my best friend, Joel, picked me up to go to the my very first gym: Health & Strength, in Highland Park, New Jersey. I had just turned 17 and had been training for about a year in my home gym that I put together. It included a Joe Weider Multi Bench and a small beginner, 110-pound barbell and dumbbell set. I saw in a magazine article that Joe Spooner, Mr. America at the time, worked out at this gym. My buddy Joel and I decided to check it out.
“In the late 70s and 80s when I first started working out, there was no such thing as personal trainers. With no internet, and only a handful of bodybuilding magazines, most everyone in the gym was doing very similar workouts.
“I was even able to attend a training seminar with Arnold Schwarzenegger and his long-time training partner, Franco Columbu. What I learned in that seminar was life changing!”
CHAMPIONSHIPS, COMPETING AND PERSONAL LIFE
I heard through other people that Jim had won championships on a plant-based diet.
When I first met Jim, I was a total noob. I had never really worked out before, and I was so enthralled with the thought of bodybuilding. I was a vegan, and I have to be honest, I didn’t think vegans could actually bodybuilder or compete. When I found out that not only could one bodybuilding, but it was possible on a vegan diet, I was so excited. When I finally got the chance to interview Jim nearly 8 years later, I had to ask him to tell me about how and what he did as a competitor.
“Championships that I have won have all been in the sport of powerlifting, where you are judged by the total amount of weight lifted in the bench press, squat, and deadlift.
“I won three state level championships, two in 1998, and one in 2003, all in the over 40-year-old, 242 pound class, and drug free.
Often when I think about competing or someone else competing, I know it requires a lot of time, and I wondered how that effected Jim’s personal life. I asked him if his wife ever hits the gym with him, but he said no. “Hours in the gym is time away from my family, but they understand . . . My workouts are far too intense for my wife’s liking. . . our workouts are not compatible with each other.”
When I asked if he is still competing, he said that he is not, “at the moment,” but, “I never train just to maintain. I always push myself to the limit with the intent of a possible future meet. . .”
When I asked him if he thinks he’ll ever compete again, he said that he is definitely thinking about it!
I was curious what the main difference was between his regular fitness and diet regime and when competing. He said that it depends on if it’s bodybuilding or powerlifting.
BODYBUILDING AND NOT YET VEGAN
"At the end of the same year, I went to Brazil for a wedding, met the girl of my dreams, and got married 6 months later. This is when the vegan adventure began!"
STEAK, CHICKEN, EGGS AND A QUART OF MILK
At this point I was curious what Jim’s diet was like. All of the people I knew that competed, came into the gym all puffed up, talking about how much protein they had to have in a day. They were beasts! (Smelly – beasts).
But it was just how they did things, not just when they were competing! These regular gym-bro’s always bragged about the amount of protein they were consuming in a day. I had to ask Jim, “What was your diet like?” 
Jim replied, “To get to [desired] weight meant eating three large meals a day. Now that I’ve retired from powerlifting, my diet consists of a large breakfast and lunch, and a light dinner so I can keep my bodyweight close to competition weight.“I look at the third meal as a thermostat: eat more at this meal to gain weight, eat less or nothing to loose weight.”
"Consistency with your workouts - no long layoffs."
STRUGGLES WITH GAINS, NOT DRUGS
I got close to being able to compete – once. But I remember when I was training, one of the hardest things for me was gains, so I asked Jim how it was for him. He said, “gains never came easy for me. Being tall with long legs and arms, I found it difficult to put on mass. But I was persistent, and year after year I worked to increase my muscle mass and strength. It has taken a lot of patience.” Now he says that he doesn’t have any difficulties maintaining his weight. “I enjoy eating very much, so weight gain is no problem.”
The big question we’ve all been waiting for – did Jim take steroids? Or at least for me, it was a question I was waiting for! Because even the regular ol’ gym-bro at my gym seemed to think steroids was a good idea. I figured competing would add the temptation. But when I asked if he ever took them, he replied with a solid, NO.
"All of my gains in size and strength have been without the use of drugs.
IN THE GYM TODAY
I asked Jim what his regular fitness regime is now, and
he told me that he works out about 4 times per week for about an hour to an hour and a half a day. He said, “I divide my body in 4 parts: Chest day, back day, shoulder, arms day, and leg day. So all body parts are worked 1 time per week, while calves, abs, and forearms I will do 2 times per week.”
He says even when he was competing, he followed the same basic routine he follows now.
Do you have a partner or somebody that keeps you accountable?
INSPIRATION AND ROLE MODELS
I really enjoy finding out who inspires great people and who they look up to. I asked Jim who his role model is, and he said, “Arnold Schwarzenegger, whom I have had the privilege of meeting on three different occasions.”
When I asked Jim if he listens to or watches any motivational speakers, podcasts, YouTube channels, or has any particular reading material he would like to share, he again mentioned Arnold Schwarzenegger. “The movie Pumping Iron, Arnold’s book, Education of a Bodybuilder, and Franco Columbu’s book, Coming on Strong, have all been extremely inspirational for me. Nick’s Strength and Power, and Dr. Michael Greger’s NutritionFacts, are two YouTube channels I watch regularly.”
Obviously, the previous question sort of answered my next questions, “have you ever met anyone famous?” but I asked him if he still talks to the people he has met, and who else he’s met besides Arnold.
“I have met a number of famous people: Dr. Atkins founder of the Atkins diet. I actually sat in his office. . . Richard Gaspari, the number 2 bodybuilder in the work for 3 consecutive years in the late 1980s, I knew since he was was 14 years old. Trained with Steve Goggins, ranked by Powerlifting USA, the number 1 powerlifter of all time. Casey Viator, the youngest Mr. America ever, who I met at Coffee’s Gym in Marietta, GA. . . I never stayed in regular contact with any of them, except Rich Gaspari, who I talk to on a regular basis since we trained at the same gym for so many years in the 1980s.”
HABITS UNRELATED TO DIET AND FITNESS
Every successful man and woman I have met have always had some sort of good habit that they swear by. Sometimes it’s an early 3am jump in a cold lake, or a two hour meditation process. At times, it’s pretty ordinary while other habits are quite odd.
I wanted to know what type of habits Jim might have to share that he does regularly. He told me that one of the things that keeps him motivated and on track is, “Being a Christian, daily prayer and Bible study in the morning before eating breakfast.”
While Jim may not be competing right now, he still lives the life of one working towards a goal. He doesn’t just train to compete. For Jim, health and fitness is a lifestyle. His daily regime is a routine of always moving forward with health and fitness his primary focus.
“On a typical work day, I get up about 6:30am, drink 3-4 cups of warm water, feed my 2 cats, eat breakfast and take a 10-20min walk. Work starts at 8:00am from my home office and I set a timer to get up, stretch and squat 10-20 reps every 45 minutes since my job entails sitting the whole day. Lunch is around noon and I go for another 10-20 min walk, then I get off of work at 5pm. At that time, I have a light dinner and walk again. About 7:30pm I will start my workout at my home gym and finish about 9:00pm. Shower, drink some cold water, and in bed by 10:00pm.”
NO EXCUSES
Too busy? Never. Jim says, “I can always find time to squeeze in a 1-hour workout, especially now that I have build a gym at home. There are times when I will have to workout as late as 9-10 pm, but I feel so much better than if I would have missed it!”
In a rut? No excuses there either. Jim says that, “sometimes I will take as much as a week off from training, and come back using lighter weights with higher reps and short rest periods between sets. Then over the period of 2-3 weeks gradually increasing the weight used until I am lifting the same or more before the “rut” hit!
THE TEAM, THE FAMILY
IN CONCLUSION
What is your core drive to stay healthy in general?
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One last thing, Jim Gurtner is an award winning author of Vegan Health & Strength, a book on How to Build a Strong, Healthy, and Muscular Body on a Plant-Based Diet. I’ve included the link so you can get your hands on it and make it your own (above). Enjoy!